What do you think about this? Parents in Cinncinati, Oh. that do not pay their child support are now having their pics and personal info posted on the tops of pizza boxes at a local pizzeria!
I think this is good in a way, but I can also see where in some cases that it would be very bad. For example: A clerical error! That could be very damaging to someone with a high profile career!
What is your opinion on this?
Have a great day! :-)
[question posted by Stephanie5]
responses and comments:
Well as long as the information on the box was proved about that person I think its a great and unique way to get dead beat fathers and mothers to pay child support. Although I know it might seem unfair I know what these single parents struggle with because my mom raised 2 of us on disabiltiy with no child support. [7nicole1]
hi,i think it is a good idea and i say as parent who had to pay child support and i am a mother no not because i was a bad one she choose to live with her dad and all we wanted was what was best for her,that away she not have to change schools and leave her friends and i paid ii and done every thing i was supposed to weekends the whole nine yards. [kebpete]
Although I'm sure there will be people saying it's a violation of privacy, I think it's a great idea. They would need to be very diligent in their record keeping so there aren't any mistakes and take people off the list as soon as they pay up. Probably the laws vary among states but here in PA some of the enforcement techniques are driver's license suspension, credit bureau reporting, passport denial, and publication of there name in a newspaper if they are more than 30 days behind. I hope my county is the exception because here they won't do anything. My daughter's father racked up almost $4000 in owed support. He claimed he was disabled and couldn't work, never provided medical evidence and worked at a private job the whole time. In the end he was ordered to pay $217, they closed the case when he still owed $85 and won't tell me why. He went around telling everybody he was paying the whole time, and of course they all believed him. Had his face been plastered all over pizza boxes, I think he would have at least been embarrassed into paying. My county workers actually told me that they couldn't enforce the laws because "it wasn't their job". I doubt they would do the pizza box thing either. Something like this really does need to be done. Too many parents are getting away with not supporting their children and it's the children and their responsible parents being hurt by it. Maybe if these "deadbeats" were put in the spotlight they'd try harder to get their act together. [foxyfire33]
I am sure they have to fall really behind in payments to make it on the pizza box. I would not feel sorry for them either, they should be embarrassed for not paying. [howard96h]
Well, having a dead beat ex of my own - I say go for it! Get his pic posted wherever you can. My ex lives in one province and I live in another, so trying to get two governments to co-operate enough to collect is a joke. Never happened and never will. His province says they can't find him (HA! He pays taxes, what more do they need!) and mine says they can't do anything until HIS finds him! Now both boys are legally adults and my file has gone to the bottom of the pile. So - yeah - get his pic out there. He's a big pizza fan and I would love to see the look on his face when he took delivery of a pizza with his mug on it! I'd sign off on every dime he owes me (over $200,000.00) if I could have a picture of that! lol As for clerical errors - the odds are just too low considering the seriousness of the objective. [itsreallymefifty]
Well I don't know if that is a good Idea or not to be honest. I mean it is also extra cost again to And as you say if an error is made the Persons good name is tared so I am not to sure about it [gabs8513]
I think this is an infringement of a person's privacy. Before they could publish these photos they would have to hear both sides of the story. When I was paying maintance for my kids, 25 years ago, I was out of work, and my ex wouldn't allow me acess. Whe I got work, my kids would ring me and ask when I was going to pay to see them. It's a very delicate situation. However there are some who refuse to pay, and this option would serve them right. [mipen2006]
I wish they were doing it in MORE of Ohio, actually. I have a former husband who owes our daughter over $5000. He is currently working as a pizza delivery person, so can you just imagine the humiliation of delivering pizza boxes to people with your picture on them, proclaiming that you are irresponsible and refuse to support your child? Poetic justice, I say! :) [TeresaK]
My TWO kids only get $75 a week! And the majority of the time, they don't get that! I think that would be hilarious to deliver your own picture, lol. Have a great day! [Stephanie5]
This is a great idea! I have seen similar ideas like this but never on a pizza box. Just think how many people will see these people on a daily basis. Whoever thought of this idea is a genius! [redstrawberry113]
I guess it might be a good incentive to not end up "like that guy" I do not however condone the practice. I believe that such detraction of character is undesirable even if the content is true. I think the word for it might be "Calumny" It is also an invasion of privacy and defamation of character (yes, even if true) I could see where the pizzeria may end up facing law suits over this. It was a little different when it was missing persons on milk cartons. There has a better way to encourage slackers to tend to their legal responsibilities. [Modestah]
The State of Ohio already puts out posters with the pictures of deadbeat parents on them, which can be found in every courthouse and post office across the state. If the pizza place then takes that poster and incorporates it into their packaging, I can't see how it is infringing on anyone's rights. If you don't want your picture on the poster, then pay your child support and be a responsible parent. Seems like good old common sense to me!! [TeresaK]
I think it's a good idea,They need to do that in every state.Maybe it would get them to pay child support. [coco526]
Think it is a great you said parents. But having the Pic of soem dead beat on my pizza box nto a good idea would not want to order pizza and see pic of some dead beat not doing the right thing. There has to be some other way. There are so many dead beats that are abusing the system that it makes it harder for the ones that do the right thing and they all get painted with the same brush. Having there pic on a a pizza box is not gonna help if they are not paying chances are they will continue not to pay. [huggiebear22]
I doubt if I would buy that pizza.I kinda don't like that 'in yer face' stuff and although I truly believe that every parent moms and dads have a responsibility to their children I also don't know the story. Of course there are 2 side to any story.I'm not sticking up for anyone but I knew this guy that had mental problems, she took the kids,moved in with one of his friends,they do drugs daily while this guy is in and out of the mental ward and he gets dragged to court about 3 or 4 times a year for non support which he can not pay cause he is so depressed he can not work.So when he gets a job she calls him at work til he gets depressed and fired again.I realize the little boy and girl needs to eat but they do because welfare takes care of them while their mom parties 24-7.I know him cause he rides in my husband's taxi to his mental health apps. and we know everybody as it's a small town.When they were together he worked the same job he'd had since getting out of hs.He would have full responsibility for the kids sometimes for weeks at a time cause she would take off then want to come back..He would believe her and take her back...Then one day she left and took the kids and he didn't know where they were for over 3 months and he tried to kill himself and hasn't gotten better since.Here was a nice guy distroyed by this very cute gal that he loves since school and she come to him when she got pregnant for the first child which may or not be his child.He says it's his now cause he's the Daddy. This guy has no family that I know of except the kids.I'd hate to see his face on the box because I realize the other side . I guess my point is that I'm not confortable judging someone cause I haven't lived their life.I don't know how the road curved that they may have traveled or anything about the twists and turns. I guess my answer is I wouldn't like to see it R [raydene]
It's certainly a very creative idea to deter people from becoming deadbeats, or to punish those whom are. I do wonder what they do if they've made a mistake, though. [cutepenguin]
I think it is a very good idea in a way if they could make sure that the person they are displaying is truly a deadbeat parent. I could see where it may cause some controversy also if they accidentally place a face on there that isn't a deadbeat any longer. I mean, the company may produce so many pizza boxes with these faceson there and just so happen one of those faces is no longer a deadbeat and they have paid in full but their picture is still out there all over those unbought pizza boxes. That would cause a major stir. I think the pizza compnay would be looking at a huge lawsuit. [stephcjh]
That means that there are unpleasant things both inside and outside of the box! Very appropriate. [islander7]
I heard this on the news yesterday and thought it was a great idea. Reminds me of the lost children and how they were posted on milk cartons. I think it is a great way to spread the word and catch up with some of these guys. I'm all for it and think it should be expanded to more states and areas. [kareng]
I love this idea. I know there can be error but I can live with one or so errors if it gets these dads to pay up. It is not easy raising one child let alone than more than one by yourself. My cousin raised her daughter alone because the father did not pay his childsupport. These guys and gals need to step it up. They made these kids now pay your fair share. [sizzle3000]
I think that would be great. Maybe it would save another woman from having a baby with the dead beat. On the other hand if there was a clerical error, be ready for a law suit!! Great topic!! [soldenski]
I hadn't heard about this (I'm in Cincinnati), I had to go look it up. It's not my county, pity... I've love to support any pizzeria that did it. :) Anyhow, YES, I think this is a fantastic idea. I think deadbeat "parents" (I use the term loosely) should be publicly shamed. There's no excuse for skipping out on a child you created. I hope other counties here (and other cities/states) do the same. [kimberlymarie]
In my opinion if the people don't want to be labeled as a dead beat and don't want their information put on the top of a pizza box then they should pay their bills. It's really not that hard. I mean if you work, you'll only have to pay a little bit. They will work with you. I think people need a little bit of a push to actually pay what they are supposed to. If they don't get embarassed or pushed, those poor families will probably never recieve the money they deserve. [highflyingxangel]
I think its a novel idea, provided its accurate of course. It wouldnt hurt to have a date and arearage either. Of course it would suck to get loose your business if you were wrong. It wasnt long ago former sex offenders were trying to get the sex offender registry pulled off the web in my state. Thankfully they lost in court. I am sure the owner of this place is probly paying alot more for boxes like this than the bulk generic ones he (or she) deserves a pat on the back. [EvanHunter]
I think in the case of the dead beats that someone with a high profile career is not going to be behind in their payments. Now as for the men that move to a different state each time that the authorities catch up with them. Well, they deserve it! My ex tried dirty little games like going on a month long vacation and failing to see that the money was available to be collected. I notified the judge and told him how my ex was getting around paying and he let my ex know straight out that it would not be tolerated again. I learned early on that you have think like a criminal to catch a criminal. I always managed to stay one step ahead of his dirty little games. As for clerical errors, I really don't think those happen as often as one would think. If the payments are turned in, they get recorded before the payments get sent out to the custodial parent. In the past they have taken drivers licenses away but the men still drove. If it takes a profile on a pizza box then all the more power to them. It is the children who suffer when the money is not provided for their needs and therefore measures must be taken. [loujac3]
I think this is a great idea! I would love to see the look on my ex's face to have his info put on a pizza box for everyone to see! He would be so mad! That would be fantastic! I can see the down side to it, but there are too many people getting away with not paying child support for their children. My ex, as you may have guessed, is one of them. I've known quite a few people who have gone to court, but still have never received any kind of payment. I fought with child support services for 4 years, almost 5 years, and still nothing. I have basically given up. I think that's what they want us to do. If I was on welfare, you better believe that they would've gone after him with everything they had, but since I'm just a working stiff who is trying to support my children on my own, they won't do anything to help. It took them almost a whole year just to serve him with the papers! I gave them his address and social security number and driver's license number and everything else that I could think of. I even offered to go there with the person serving the papers to tell them yeah that's him or whatever. Nothing has worked. I think public humiliation is a great tool for dead beat parents, child molesters and rapists. Maybe something like that would finally get through to these people! [wellamoose]
I think it is a great idea. I feel if you were responsible enough to have children then you should be responsible enough to help pay to raise them. I think by doing this it will put more pressure on them to pay their child support. Good idea. [dragonryder]
The idea stinks. The child support system in many states is seriouly flawed. Although there exist fathers and mothers that just don't care about their children, true deadbeats, there are many more non-custodial parents that are victimized by the current system. If you are going to put pictures on pizza boxes, let them be pictures of the real atrocities that exist... but that wouldn't be very appetizing, would it? [TDonald]
If it were proven for sure that they were a deadbeat and a jerk, then yeah, I'm all for it and think it's a great idea. The father of my 3 kids has been a deadbeat many times over the past 8 years. He is paying a little now though. The court order is for a little over 6 hundred on three kids and he paid $50 for the week. We haven't seen that much or even near the court ordered amount for around 3 years. He left a good paying job where we live to move out of town to get a lower paying job. He said he just "wanted a change". I actually think the child support will stop all together soon, that's how he is. [embattledsparkle]